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Stop Sign Enforcement Cameras for Seattle
Too many idiots constantly blowing through stop signs every single day! Almost got hit today and they had the audacity to yell out their window at me.. Especially for right turns, stop sign compliance is absolutely abysmal.. We really need stop sign cameras to start smacking these jerks with fines. No different than intersection cameras. Just detect a full-stop, and you’re good. But if you’re sliding through or straight up barreling through, boom, ticket! Seattle has some awful drivers.. What’re your thoughts?
This won't just ticket bad drivers—it'll ticket the wrong ones. A rolling stop at a stop sign on an empty residential street at 2 AM isn't the same as blowing through a red light at rush hour, but this camera can't tell the difference.
A 60-80% reduction in violations within a year is exactly the kind of data we need. If D.C. and Chicago can make this work, Seattle's Vision Zero goals become measurable rather than aspirational.
The enforcement gap is real—40% fewer traffic citations since 2019—but automated enforcement has a documented bias problem. How does this program ensure it isn't targeting neighborhoods with higher stop-sign density or certain demographics disproportionately?
Redirecting ticket revenue to pedestrian safety upgrades is smart, but the math doesn't work for long-term sustainability. As violations drop, so does the funding stream—what then?
Chicago's automated stop sign program was tied to a 62% reduction in right-angle crashes—that's the same maneuver causing most pedestrian injuries here. We've seen this playbook succeed before.
The tension here is real: rolling stops do cause harm, but a camera can't see context—a clear intersection vs. a school crosswalk at dismissal. That's where the credibility of enforcement lives or dies.